Someone is “cagey” when they keep their cards close to their chest / non-committal / refuse to really express their view on things.
I get the sort of game Andy is referring to, and agree about how it can affect a playing partner. I don’t think “cagey” is the right word for it. “Scrappy” is more on the mark.
It’s an odd hill to die on, Big. Are there no rounds you wanna play, without keeping score or even trying to post a score?
This was what I thought too. Maybe it’s got different meanings as slang in different areas.
Not sure if you are a Shotgun Start podcast listener…but this would not be the first time that Andy (or Brendan!) have used a word that makes ZERO sense. If nothing else, it is certainly on brand for them.
I find it hilarious, but I can also understand the confusion.
“Gotta tell him 7:10 or 7:15”. @Cody ”no.” The frustration was palpable 
All of us who have that one buddy feel your pain
I’m with the big guy on this one. Not keeping score or posting a round sounds good to me in theory, but in reality I have an extremely difficult time doing it. For whatever reason, I need that score at the end.
I’m the same, if I had the chance to play more, it probably wouldn’t matter to me as much, but I’m barely playing more than 20 rounds a year as is and I like to maintain a reasonably accurate handicap
It’s one of the things that - especially on travel trips - I have shied away from doing match play or best ball, etc. Even though I think it can make the round more fun, I sort of want to have my round COUNT. But I’m leaning away from that because in the end, not sure it matters, and if the golf itself can be more fun that’s worth it. But I personally 100% get where you’re coming from.
As someone who is habitually early to everything and refuses to entertain being late, I felt @Cody in my soul.
Along those same lines from a prior coach-
Early is on time, on time is late, and late is unacceptable.
Why can’t it count playing match play or best ball? Just gotta hit cups.
I’ll definitely be using the 2nd one in the future, TY.
Potential project: A GIF of every @Eggman shot comment in the entire episode, which is literally every shot shown at Diamond Springs, with audio.
True, it’s just often the case in match play that if you lose a hole you just pickup. And once you do that you shouldn’t post a score. It’s tough to be in a green side bunker, knowing you’ve lost the hole and still want to chip out and putt when you don’t have to.
Gotcha. I’d say 90% of my rounds are match play of some variety. I always just play out until I’m at double or worse before picking up regardless the status of the hole.
Yeah I guess the handicap system corrects back to that so fair point.
In case you care, this is wrong. There’s a whole section (3.3) on this in the handicapping manual: https://www.usga.org/handicapping/roh/2020-rules-of-handicapping.html
Relevant quote:
I love to learn when I’m wrong (seriously!) and this makes it so much easier. Will factor this in going forward, would love to play match play more often, honestly.
Based on the ongoing discourse it seems like a lot of us were raised in “If you’re on time you’re late, and if you’re early, you’re on time” houses. I’ve come to accept the fact that I’ll probably putting in for a table at the host stand for the rest of my life when we go out with folks, but I definitely get annoyed for like golf or movies when folks show up late or close to it. That’s a big reason why I’m concerned about trying to organize a golf trip with some of my friends—I don’t want us to fly halfway across the country to miss tee times.