Great ep. The close-up portrait shots of the guys giving me Last Chance U vibes. Production levels are incredible.
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And if I recall correctly, I landed in that bunker on my tee shot there when we played. 
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Boys, Iām trying very hard to limit the hyperbole, but this is the best/my favorite golf content Iāve ever seen.
How you weave the storytelling and showcasing of Detroit with the buddies trip and golf is incredible. The seeding quiz scene was perfect and made me want to immediately go on a trip with friends.
It just keeps getting better.
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I was screaming Petoskey rocks, spent many summers hunting for those fossils. We have quite the collection somewhereā¦
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I know nothing about the state of Michigan, but this episode made me want to take a vacation there. This may have been my favorite premiere episode of any TS season. I just thought it was absolutely terrific.
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Iāve had a straight-up bad time (relatively speaking, haha) while playing Pac Dunes on multiple occasions, I think because of how the prevailing wind seems to make all the hardest holes harder for someone like me whose ball flight isnātā¦ good. (@Soly does a good job of explaining this in detail.)
Playing into that kind of wind and just watching your ball constantly sailing into gorse or some other demise is what leaves a bad taste in my mouth there. Itās the same premise as what Doak said about The Loop ā if I want to shoot the lowest score in those conditions with my ability, I need to swallow my pride and just bunt it around. That, unless youāre playing a match against one other person, isnāt very fun.
The difference with The Loop, as @Randy talked about on the pod was that youāre not ever losing a golf ball. You can try all the shots that youāre probably not good enough to hit and your punishment is just a difficult chip rather than a lost ball. Itās such a different challenge in that everything truly stays right in front of you and it makes it almost more psychological (can you stay in it?) rather than physical. Having spectacularly failed both of those examinations now, I think the first one is more fun.
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This right here is exactly how I feel. Been in the city for three years now, and started doing work with my dadās company down here about 15 years ago. It was incredible to see the city come back from what it was, and the NLU crew did an incredible job of just highlighting it.
Itās not a perfect city, but it also is nowhere near the stereotype everyone said.
Iāve always said Detroit is like a small-town, family-like feel in a big city. Everyone is friendly for the most part, and we all stick together. We can say Detroit is shit sometimes, but no one else better say it.
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Michigan summers are tough to beat but Nov-May is a brutal stretch of zero golf or bad condities.
I had to google āJets 8 corner pizzaā because as a simpleton I was thinking it would be hospital cross shaped to get additional sweet sweet corner pieces. Itās two rectangle pizzas.
What I was thinking (but full crust not some cut and paste pizza):
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What it is:
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Jets is so much better than any chain pizza, itās such a solid go-to place.
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But thereās always winter fly fishing and ice fishing. And winter sports, if you are into that sort of thing.
Exactly, the same vibe of summertime boating/golfing/ etc is just as strong for hunting/ice fishing/ snowmobiles. Iāve had coworkers that go to the UP almost every weekend year round.
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To a certain extent, Detroit (at least around the stadiums and parts Iāve driven through) reminds me of L.A. I live in Chicago now, but I grew up around Pasadena. Detroit and LA both suffer not necessarily from a lack of public transportation, but from a lack of a population that grew up around public transportation, and it just makes even the downtown areas seem like difficult walks. Like all of your destinations just arenāt right on top of each other like they are in some other cities with robust transportation, the benefit of which is that people need to walk around once they get off the bus/train. Itās different when you can drive right to your destination. It just feels less cozy, for lack of a better term. Could just be my perception.
That probably also makes it harder for the city to fill back in where other places, like Chicago, have seen some urban renewal over the last couple decades. You can grow up in the suburbs, go to college, and move to the city, because you donāt need to drive everywhere (or really anywhere) in Chicago. That seems to me to be harder to do in Detroit. And I liken it to LA because theyāre both car culture cities. Detroit for obvious reasons, and LA because the Big Three saw it as a place where they were determined to keep robust public transportation options from taking root. They wanted that market and they got it. I wonder the extent to which some of the ride sharing services may be helping to change that.
Thatās an out of townerās perspective though, so feel free to tell me Iām completely wrong.
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For whatever reason, that cross-shaped pizza made me laugh so damn hard.
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Fair for sure. 13 is super hard into the wind on Pac. And I remember lots of talk on 14 and 16 from last year too. I may have a ton of privilege that I somehow have played 16 very well the couple times Iāve been to Pac. I do think the finish is very hard: I havenāt figured out how to play 17 and 18 well. Maybe I just enjoyed the middle stretch and got caught up in the electricity of 10 and 11ā¦
I think Pac Dunes is the only Doak course Iāve played so far, so I donāt have a ton of context on some of his others. I have heard more stories recently about his greens being very dialed up (a lot of comments about Streamsong Blue, which I need to play), so Iām curious to see how the Loop looks. All speculation on my part: Iām excited to see what The Loop looks like after all the discussion on the pod.
Fun, great episode with a good mix of golf and city. Hearing the discussion of South/North courses made me think of how locals in San Diego feel about Torrey. Most locals prefer the North because of its interesting green complexes over the South even though it hosts majors and pga events. Seems like this might be the case at a lot of places, the locals know whatās up even though the rest of golf coverage only focuses on the famous course.
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Youāre not wrong, but I think my second year at Kingsley, we actually drove up in the winter. They plowed the road back to the cottages, we took some steaks, wine, and our snowshoes, and tromped all over the place for a couple days. It was a ton of fun.
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I have played both DGC courses many times. I think they are pretty similar, just North as more trees and is longer/tighter than south. Ross designed all the holes. Plus its private so there is only a limited number of golfers that have played either course
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Ah the video/footage made it seem more stark. Gotcha.
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Iām 100% there with you,
Tourist Sauce is such a high on production and the competition to me was as important as the story around it.
Oregon had so many visuals to show that the buddies trip competition took a bit of a back seat which was fine just because the story telling was so strong. For some reason just one episode in this nailed everything from location to seeding to the first round @djpie v. @MerchCzar canāt wait to keep watching!
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