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I like the look of this. Curious to see how #8 ends up:

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Says it’ll be four-season so I guess they will have some kind of partnership with the ski resort there as well

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hell yes

I love that it’s 400km/250 miles to the ocean but it will be called Cabot Pacific.

“Revelstoke is a reminder of why people have gone to the ocean and the mountains for respite for thousands of years.”

Thousands might be a bit of a stretch. Not sure how much vacationing there was in the Iron Age (#MilleniumOfTheBlade).

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Yeah I thought that was weird. To be honest the first thing I did was re-evaluate if I actually remembered which side of the province Revelstoke was on. Glad to see I’m not wrong.

It’s only about an hour and a half from my GFs family cabin, so pretty excited about that

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Super cool to see this in the works, but that name is a total whiff in my opinion.

The marketing is funny too, right - “aims to bring great golf to the mountains of British Columbia”. Guise, I feel like there’s a few courses that might put their hands up and count themselves in that group already…

Either way though, no doubt this will be a phenomenal development. Look forward to seeing how it shapes up. Also need to dial in my exactly-250yd tee shot for that 8th hole!

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So many want to use the Cabot name.

I’m curious how Cabot works within Dream Resorts and seperate from it.

The Cabot name is owned by Ben Cowan-Dewar. He owns all of the properties and makes boat loads of money. So this new venture isn’t from someone else using the name it is from Ben Cowan-Dewar.

He is partnered with DreamGolf (Mike Keiser) as Mike helped him out with the funding for Cabot Links. I think Mike owns a small portion of Cabot but Ben is the majority share holder from what I understand.

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It’s just weird, because Cabot refers to an area of Cape Breton Island (where the golf course is). There is literally no reason to use it anywhere else other then getting some name recognition. I guess nobody owns the name so they can use it wherever they want.

Imagine creating a sister course in the east and calling it Banff Atlantic?

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What licensing does he have on the Cabot name? It’s a geographical area on Cape Breton Island. Has he trademarked the name related to golf? He can’t own that name anymore than somebody could own the name for lake erie or niagara falls.

Cabot is now a brand name. Thats why you now see Cabot St. Lucia and now Cabot Pacific (yucky name but whatever).

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I don’t know. Thats something you would probably have to research or ask Ben himself. He may be able to trademark it as a brand name. I don’t know anything about trademark law.

I do however know that Ben owns (is majority shareholder anyways) Cabot and has bought these other properties or made partnerships to bring the Cabot name and golf resorts to these other areas. Hence the brand name being the same.

I also thought it was weird at first until I spoke with someone who is familiar with the setup to understand more.

Is Cabot actually a geographic location there?

There are things in the area named after John Cabot though.

There’s the Cabot Trail, which is a big sightseeing highway. I’m sure that’s how he got the name in the first place. I can’t imagine he could stop someone else in that area from opening a business using the name Cabot. His trademark is likely related to resorts/golf/hospitality.

I don’t know, I was just confused as to why that name, which is pretty regional and shouldn’t hold much significance in any other area, is being used all over the place on golf properties. But if he has it setup as his brand, I guess that makes sense.

100% the name is synonymous with that area and the Cabot Trail. To me there is a very small difference of the name being inspired by the area vs actually being that area (if that makes sense)

I guess after the success of Cabot Links, the name Cabot now has recognition beyond Cape Breton, at least in the golf world, so might as well run with it

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He owns copyright on the Cabot name. IANAL but I don’t think it’s any different than the multitude of other companies that are named after a place (Patagonia being the first that comes to mind).

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Yes, I think you hit the nail on the head. The Cabot name is now synonymous with golfers across the World (more importantly wealthy Americans than anything else) and so they used that as a brand and will try and levy that into making more resorts.

I suspect Cabot St. Lucia will be very pricey and they want wealthy Americans to come play golf.

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How exactly is that different than every other golf resort in the world?

I’m stoked because Revelstoke is super cool and it looks like hopefully it’s not like all of the other top-100 mountain courses in that area that aren’t that great but just have crazy views.

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Haha oh I’m aware. More hypothetical for the future of the two brand umbrellas.

Cabot Links/Cliffs has local rates for NB residents. They consider the space they are in as part of their market. It’s likely a small segment, but it exists. St Lucia will likely be importing far more of their clients - to the point that it is also a real estate play.

So it isn’t “different” but it won’t be as connected to the local market.

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