Nest Invitational Tournament aka NIT - Viiibbiiinnnggg

It. doesn’t. matter. They don’t need to be comparable. It works with almost ANY scorecard. EVERY time an 18 cap gets a gross par, he loses 2 points to what he would have gotten in a net stableford game. Every time he gets a true double bogey, he loses a point.

The fucking question is not whether the two scores are the same, it’s whether the high capper would be better under any other stableford system.

@BaxterMSP has a vanity cap but you don’t hear him complaining and talking about how unfair the math is. Just play better next time guis.

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It’s not good to use a single specific example to back up a statistical argument. Typical lawyer “trick”, right @anon47037505?

“Fallacy of defective induction”

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I will bet you every single round played by an 18 and up would have been better compared to every single round played by a scratch in this tournament under net modified stableford than quota. Anyone wanna take it?

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Guise what happened to good excuses like I could not make any putts?

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Ah, we’re arguing two different things. I’m not comparing stableford to quota. Yeah, obviously modified quota helps vs regular stableford. That’s the modified portion. I’m saying that a 20 HC is going to do better more often than not than a scratch in the quota game we played. That’s just empirical fact, and not just from this sample size of one.

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Higher handicappers get a bigger advantage in a non-linear stableford game over a linear quota game… but also, high handicappers have an advantage in a linear quota game over lower handicappers, and a linear stableford game also favors higher handicappers.

Another way of saying what @Ballgame just wrote.

Edit: Non-linear: 0, 1, 2, 4, 8. Linear: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 for double, bogey, par, birdie, eagle.

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PIC. Playing Inebriation Calculator.

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This thread RN

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No more quantum physics talk, I want to hear about the backstopping!

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No one had to grind for double bogey, we finished 36 holes + lunch in time both days, and we got a deserving winner. The format worked out perfectly.

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Phenomenal

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It’s not empirical fact. It’s highly contextual. On a day with 40mph gusts, will a 36 HCP beat a scratch nearly always? Yep. Because the 36 doesn’t need to do anything to hit quota, and the scratch is going to struggle. But on a calm day at a 7,000 yard course, I’ll take the scratch against a 20 HCP every day and twice on Sunday. I don’t think you understand that 20+ HCPs make almost NO birdies. They are likely to reach their quota very, very rarely.

Sorting through about 300+ photos that I’ll link to soon. In the meantime, wanted to get these beauties out to you all. @ChickPhilA @JCO @JamesHCard @MrVinegar206 @bmasters @mintbucket @RonniepND @AirMailWedges @CSquared07

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You could create the argument that guys that came from snow, were at a severe disadvantage.

Perhaps we should try for earlier in the fall next year?

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Same problem, it would still be 100* and you’d be at a disadvantage. It’s probably better to wait for temps to calm down. Plus it’s not a great idea to schedule a huge event in the middle of hurricane season in Jax.

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I had a blast meeting so many of you guys (and gals @ChickPhilA ) this weekend. Wish I could’ve been there for more than just a day! It is so cool to be apart of such a cool community, with so many amazing people!
Hope to see y’all again soon!

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Looks 17+ HCs they made their quotas 38% of the time vs. 10.1% of the time for 6 and better.

HCs make a lot of triples or worse and the variance of their scores is higher which helps them in a large field, winner-take-all.

You’re overly focused on the upside of birdies and missing the downside protection HCs have in a game like this which is far more common.

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Really bad job by me not holding the trophy the right way. I regret the error.

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