Does 10 at Riv stink? An NLU Investigation

Kikuyu is real
Stickiest of the icky
You hear? Frank played Riv.

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I played Riv when I was 11.

Did you go for it on 10?

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Canā€™t speak to Casa de Campo, but having watched a bunch of golf on tv from PGA West and having played Kiawah a few times, I can confidently put Sawgrass above both of those, and itā€™s not particularly close. While there are a few holes I think are weak (7,8,12) and the conditioning/agronomic choices they make arenā€™t my cup of tea, I think Sawgrass puts Kiawah in a body bag, all things equal. And if weā€™re taking into account how nondescript/shitty the site was before he got ahold of it, that makes Sawgrass even more impressive. I think itā€™s probably the second strongest set of par fives Iā€™ve ever played behind Sand Hills.

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Nantz taking shots at KVV!

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I didnā€™t hear it and Iā€™m not sure it really it really was a subtweet of me, but if so, it shows how soft the golf establishment is that one contrarian story on a website that has published five stories in five years has Nantz worked up enough to respond.

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I highly doubt it was, but the refuge can manufacture controversy with the best!

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I appreciate your take, Kevin. I think it is healthy to question things like 10 at Riv. I disagree with any conclusion that thinks it stinks but hopefully the discourse will push Riviera and the PGAT to make slight tweaks to improve it.

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That Aon segment talking strokes gained/lost about positions on 10 shows why it is so respected as a short 4, even if it needs a tweak or not

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Max agrees 10 is a great golf hole.

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Going for the rare ā€œbirdie every roundā€ stat!

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Did Immelmam just quote the article?

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What did he say?

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I thought he might have repeated a quote you got from Max. But upon review, Iā€™m not seeing it in your piece, so it may have popped up elsewhere during the hole 10 discourse over the last day

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Iā€™d listen to an argument that ā€œthe hole is heavily dependent on luck and therefore not a great tournament golf hole to determine who was betterā€. But watching these guys have to deal with things just straight up not go their way even though they hit a good shot is very fun for me.

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Absolutely. Got on in 3.

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Itā€™s been said before, but after watching the featured hole coverage and see it was taking groups 20+ minutes to get through, Iā€™m on the 10 stinks train.

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Cant agree on Sawgrass vs any of Casa de Campo Teeth of the Dog, the Ocean Course or PGA West, having played all four. I would put any of the Streamsong courses above Sawgrass as well.

Do you even know what a blog is, Kevin?

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