You should change your user title to Whoop Defender or something, man. 
The (recovery) numbers often donāt make any sense. Iāve been tired today. My 3:12 was not a āqualityā sleep.
The strain, and the actual sleep tracking seem to be decent. Recovery? Yeesh.
Not really defending them. Just stating that duration of sleep is a useless metric.
And I donāt tend to have nearly as many issues as you. Maybe Iām reading my data different. But I tend to look at and around my recovery number.
Iāll see 66% recovery but also look at my RHR and VHR and see how close within my baseline it actually is, or if it dipped. Or was my respiratory rate sky high. And that will judge the intensity of the work out that day.
What are the odds of getting a āpretty goodā 3:12 of sleep for an 83% recovery? Gotta be pretty low.
Like Iāve said, recovery seems random, practically. Sleep, strainā¦ fine. 18 months are paid for, but I donāt see it going past that unless the 4.0 or something is somehow different/better.
Sleep is but one metric of recovery. It doesnāt seem weird at all to have one bad night of sleep but a good recovery if the other metrics are decent.
RHR
HRV
Respiratory Rate
Sleep
I get good sleep all the time. Literally the last of my issues. But recovery can suuuuck if my HRV and RHR are trash. Which happens with the boozy nights.
Iāve felt good as hell this week. My mental health has also been top notch. Getting out of town did wonders for my soul. Averaging damn near 13 strain for April too. Hope yāall are killing it out there too.
Who would guess mental health plays a big role?
But for real thatās awesome. Keep kicking ass.
Iām always shocked how much doing things ārightā impacts the next day. Iāll have a couple strong days in a row where Iām not drinking wine, drinking lots of water, meditating before bed and getting green recoveriesā¦and then a night where Iāll have more wine the I should then wake up to a bad recoveryā¦never seem to learn
Itās not even alcohol. Stress or any other āmental loadsā really mess up sleep.
I try and get into a routine of water, using hyper volt, and staying off phone before bed. Seems to help a ton.
I wish it wasnāt the wine/beer for me.
But itās so the wine/beer.
I have pretty bad seasonal allergies to the point where it can cause some asthma if Iām not on top of my meds. Iāve found since spring has showed up here in Dallas Iāve only had 5 green recovery days going back to March 1. Only one this month and it was a 74%. Tough scene.
Interesting experience this morning with my recovery.
I hit the hay about 9.15pm and woke up at 4.08am. Lay in bed until 5am when my wife wakes up to go to work. Made her a coffee and chatted to her and then went back to bed at 5.15am to read the news until the kids woke up.
Looked at my recovery then and it was 46%.
About 5.45am I went back to sleep and was out like a light until 6.40 when my 4yo came barrelling in.
I changed my end time of my sleep to 6.40 and the recovery updated to 76%.
Unlike Iacas, my thesis here is not that the recovery is bogus or random, more that it totally makes sense to me that the extra hour and the more standard wake-up time can deliver that extra 30%. I felt like shit when I was first up and I felt incredibly restored after the extra hour (total sleep went from about 5h50 to 6h38).
I felt not great, had 3:12 of sleep, and it gave me 83%. There was no extra hour for me.
I wonder what yours would have said if you had added a ānapā instead, which is kinda what that was. I wonder if it counted some of the time you were awake.
Anyway, somewhere up thread, I edited the end time, which shouldnāt have changed āthe last five minutes of deep sleepā or whatever they supposedly use to calculate it, and it changed by quite a bit. So who knowsā¦
Curious what everyoneās sleep disturbances are during the night. Would like some comparisons. I average 7-9 each night and am curious about others.
That feels like a lot. Iām a 0-3 guy most nights.
Do you snore? Does your partner? Do you wake up to go to the bathroom often, or have sleep apnea?
Only 30 days into using Whoop but I average 14ā¦shit.
Avg is 18 over the last 30 days.
I turn about quite a bit. The covers look like a tornado hit them most mornings.
Holy cow. What mattresses are you guis using? Or somethingā¦?
Iām about the same but whatās crazy is how much time WHOOP says Iām awake. Last night it said I was awake for like an hour and a half. Iām sure this is based on heart rate or something but while I know I woke up for some time but thatās crazy. I feel sure Iād know if I was awake for 90 minutes. And this isnāt the only time I have had that
Same amounts for me
@iacas I think the simple answer to thatās actually complicated is that HRV by whoops own admission is highly sensitive and can fluctuate pretty wildly. Also that itās baselined for yourself. Even within an hour it can be volatile so it sounds to me like they ācombatā that by just picking as consistent of a spot during anyoneās varied day to snag the measurement.
