Trap Draw: Los Angeles

The irony being this whole place was originally a Spanish speaking country- in fact, TWO, Spanish speaking countries, and now the names have been anglacized to the point when you get raked over the coals for mis-anglicizing the names. Not to go all NPR Maria Hinojosa (Lohs AnHehLes) on you, but it just makes me laugh and cringe because I know I blow it all the time.

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Happens up north too. Just wait until you hear all the Midwestern transplants pronounce Vacaville

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Nothing will touch the locals’ pronunciation of Versailles, KY.

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Russia (roo-shee), OH is an all timer

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Sidecar started near my house - east side Costa Mesa. Better than Portland donuts for sure. Has expanded up and down the coast. Highly recommend.

There’s a new donut spot near my gym in Tustin that is getting some buzz called Oliboli which the first chef at sidecar started.

I thought you might get into the coffee scene in LA since @Tron appears to be a speciality coffee guy.

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Is it like North Versailles (Ver-sails), PA? Not to be confused w/ DuBois (Doo-boys).

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Yes, exactly, but add a southern accent.

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Hell yes, give me all the dark side of the donut scene. The Atlantic story focused on the good part, I’m here for it all.

Definitely will get these the next time I’m in Santa Monica. I stood in line for the original cronut in NYC. It was good, but I still believe that a custard-filled long John is better than all other donuts ever created.

If had known a priori of this stance I’d have chosen my words more carefully. I think the phrase quid pro quo has gotten a bad rap since about 2019. Let’s rephrase to “aligning interests” or “home and home.” I’ve lived in SE Michigan for 15 years and never played Rackham, so I’m definitely going to try and join Maxmania and meet some of the people behind the handles.

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Sleeper for Donuts is Blinkies in Woodland Hills on Topanga at Dumetz.

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He moved to the Bay Area and he and his family thought it was too cold. He moved down South after that.

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Sickest take

Never thought I’d see North Versailles on here. Crazy.

The Walmart in North Versailles, PA might be the real Hamsterdam.

I second Malibu Seafood it’s unofficial BYOB or maybe it is official who could say. My only Insider knowledge would be go on the middle or top patio for the best view and less of that PCH noise.

@Lazstradamus describing working with the airlines got me thinking. Is United the PAC 12 of airlines? Office in a way too expensive part of town. Long-standing history but terrible decision making nowadays.

So, then what conferences are the other airlines?

SEC: I say this begrudgingly but it’s Delta. I’m an ACC homer through and through. But the SEC is fantastic too to bottom. I’m not looking football only either. Softball, volleyball, gymnastics, baseball. The SEC is always at or near the top. Hop on a Florence, SC to Atlanta flight, you’re still getting the best.

ACC: JetBlue. I won’t have it any other way. We’re classy. Do we have everything? No. Would we be better if some football programs figured it out? No doubt. Do we wish JetBlue expanded their international service? Of course. I love the ACC and I love JetBlue but man, if they took the next step, look out.

Big 12: Easiest one on the board. Southwest. Are they sexy? Yes. Are they exciting yes? Does a rapping flight attendant get me all hot and bothered much like a 66-59 Texas Tech football game, you bet. Do they give us everything we want? No.

Big 10: American. They both suck. They both think they don’t suck.

AAC: Alaska. I’ll be honest, I’ve never flown Alaska. Although, I hear good things. I’m a big supporter of the AAC and think they deserve more respect and are one step away from national prominence. I look at Alaska the same way, though I have no clue.

MAC: Spirit. I mean, look. Spirit stinks. But it’s by far the most well known of all the minor carriers so it goes to the MAC.

Sun Belt: Sun Country. They both start with Sun.

Mountain West: Frontier. Just based off the name and Frontier has bears and crap on their webpage and that reminded me of Idaho/Montana.

Conference USA: Allegiant. Oh Allegiant. I’ve flown the Richmond-St. Petersburg too many times. And ya know, it’s been fine. But, did they cancel my mother’s flight from Orlando to Richmond three days before Hurricane Maria leaving her to drive 20 hrs. home with her 80 year old mother with all the other hurricane avoiders? Yes. What does that have to do with Conference USA? Nothing.

So there it is. My definitive airline to college conference comparisons. Please tell me where I am wrong. I welcome any and all criticisms except for the Big 10. It sucks.

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The only flight I took from Florence to Atlanta, they lost my golf clubs, sooooo

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Dialed in take here. Full respect.

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I will never eat El Pollo Loco.

Put California Chicken Cafe (the original HOLLYWOOD location) on my list. I have no experience with the spinoff outposts.

And agree with @gwcc. I was a big Koo Koo Roo guy. Mostly takeout from the WeHo location, now occupied by Shake Shack.

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These are three great choices.

Magnolia gets overlooked in discussions of LA movies a lot, but (a) it’s great and (b) it’s an important one because so few movies are made about the valley that aren’t essentially mocking it.

Collateral is incredible. Heat is a better movie, but Collateral is a better LA movie. Drives me bananas that someone as fastidious as Mann couldn’t take the time to make the movie’s geography make sense, though.

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I knew a guy who worked at Koo Koo Roo during school. He got sent to LA for classes on their food and ingredients, with so much focus on the vegetables that he called it “Carrot College.”

The better stories were from his time at Arby’s. I still eat there, but yikes.

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