Trap Draw: Greensboro

Lowes are dope but hes not really in an area that has one. Closest is new garden and that’s a hassle with teeter being right there in friendly.

I’ll put the beer selection at Lowes in Kernersville up against about any grocery store nor named best way in the area though.

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They bought the house for $2.4 million and I don’t think land prices are that high especially since he didn’t sell of any of the 13 acres. I just feel like demo costs and building another $2 million McMansion like they have in Swansgate and Meadowlands is going to be much higher than asbestos removal and running HVAC. But hey, I’m not a contractor.

exactly, you arent a contractor and clearly have no clue what the cost of trying to renovate a nearly 100 year old property that is full of asbestos. the rough numbers i heard was that it was going to be 2-3x more expensive to try and renovate the existing structure that it is going to be to flatten it and build from scratch.

not to mention that place was a complete dump in its current shape and had been sitting on the market for years and nobody wanted to touch it…think that was just a coincidence?

just out of curiosity, what do you think the land itself is worth?

the house they own on skeet club is awesome btw and has some monster bass in the pond out front

also have you ever stepped foot in Furnitureland South or have any idea the quality of furniture they sell? you mentioning it has a huge dresser on the front of their showroom, makes you think its some kind of bo-bo ass discount furniture place or something.

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Research Triangle is an office park (aka the Silicon Valley of the East). The Triangle is Raleigh (East) Durham (West) and Chapel Hill (South West).

Traffic in Raleigh is about 1/10th as bad as Charlotte.

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I’m not trying to give the Harris’s the run around here, just sad to see an old property like that go and had so much connection to the area. The Adams were a big part of the growth of HP and GSO. If that’s the figures, it’s understandable, but the way they went about justifying the demo was ignoring the history of the property.

I think you would have to look how the land is zoned (?) to come up with a value, but I’d probably say around $1 mil for the land itself, think that’s accurate?

And I have been to Furnitureland South, actually I played baseball with Jason Harris’ son for a few years and they are mutual family friends, their current home on Skeet Club has a pretty sick indoor basketball court as well. Speaking of historical preservation, the white house across the road is looking to get torn down as well to build a 72 unit housing complex, actually a registered property in GC’s historical society.

EDIT: I am not supportive of Historical Preservation Tax Credits nor Affordable Housing Tax Credits

sounds like you are bagging on them pretty hard which is kind of surprising tbh, since everything ive heard about jason and his wife have been positive both as people in the community and as an employer.

if a historical piece of property like that sat on the market for 10 years and nobody touched it, there is a reason for it…id be willing to bet its substantially less cost to demo the entire thing and start over than it would be to try and update/rebuilt/whatever a nearly 100 year old house with lead windows and full of asbestos.

as far as the land is concerned, heres the information from the country as far as tax value, etc is concerned…

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I’m a humble loser, you have proven your point and I stand corrected. Thanks for your input. Looks like they got a good deal.

I really am not bagging them, as I said, I have known them for years. Jason came up with a great color scheme and uni combo for the Carolina Bullets, our USSSA team. Just this instance was one of disagreement, but you have made me see the light.

Also, the dresser on the front of the building comment was more for non-High Point folks that should look it up. Along with Thomasville’s Big Chair and the Chest-of-Drawers Building in downtown HP. Furniture rules!

“mind you” isnt what anyone would say when dropping a fun fact about over sized furniture pieces and encouraging folks to look it up.

if youre going to try and rag someone at least own it man…this was your way of saying the guy who purchased and flattened this historic property was tacky and was going to build an eye sore in its place.

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I said I disagreed on this topic, I do still think they are going to build an eyesore on the property…

judging from the accuracy of your opinions on the topics discussed thus far, i dont think they residents or members of sedgefield have anything to worry about

Fair enough

The intro of famous/infamous people did not include John Maginnes who lives in Greensboro and is a Sedgefield member. Love his show on XM.

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i listened to the pod last evening while mowing the grass…i had no clue who the guest was going in and obviously was excited for it after having spent the last 20 years of my life in the area

jim seemed very passionate about Greensboro and very knowledgeable on a wide array of topics that were discussed, but i was honestly left quite confused after hearing him waffle back and forth about the details he chose to share while sharing his stories.

i need to go back and listen again, but here are a few things that i would have liked some additional clarity on:

-talking about Ben Hogan, he mentioned how the GGO was always the week before the Masters, but then he went on to say Hogan won the GGO, then the next week won in Asheville, but he also played in the 1940 Masters and finished T-10, so not sure how all that worked?

-also, he told the story of asking Arnie what tourney he wished he would have won the most, outside of the PGA, and Arnie said GGO…then later on he talked about the wall of champions that had been added at Sedgefield and how all these great champions were on there, including Arnie?

-when discussing the Woolworth sit in, he mentioned that it was Feb 2, 1960 and he was certain of this b/c it was his birthday and that his dad took him down there to see what all was taking place…the date of the sit in was February 1, 1960, as indicated by the side street next to Woolworths, now the International Civil Rights Museum, being renamed February One Place. I guess he meant he went down the day after it happened to see what was taking place?

-i was glad that he brought up the woolworth sit in and its impact on the civil rights movement, but i also feel like he just kind of glossed over race issues as a whole in this city and made it seem like Greensboro had a great history as far as being open minded and racially friendly, when that isnt really the case as evident by the Greensboro Massacre that took place in 1979 when police failed to protect protestors and the KKK killed a handful of people on live TV, however nobody was ever convicted of the killings; its definitely in the process of improving, but there is still a pretty big disparity in Greensboro between the black side of town (East GSO) and the white side (West GSO) when it comes to grocery stores, shopping centers, etc.

-he also mentioned briefly the history Gillespie Golf Course which was cool, but part of me really wanted him to go further. its pretty crazy to think we have two public maxwells in roughly a 30 mile radius here, the other being reynolds park in Winston Salem. Gillespie has quite a history that not many golf courses in the country can duplicate. the black members who wanted to play the course didnt just sue in order to do so as he mentioned in the pod, instead they showed up to the course, paid their greens fees and went out and played 9 holes to the dismay of the staff at the course; all 6 men were arrested later that evening for trespassing, on a course owned by the city that was private but had no issue letting white non-members play apparently. that lead to them suing and the case going all the way to the US supreme court. the course was later ordered to fully integrate and as a result the clubhouse was burned down and then the city sold the land the original front 9 was on and vowed to get out of the golf course business all together; the back 9 sat unused for 4-5 years before opening back up; jim mentioned that the routing was the same, however it was 9 holes now vs 18, which kinda changes the routing

either way, i enjoyed jim as a guest, but part of me was left underwhelmed.

the way he answered the grocery store, i kind of feel like he shops at whole foods

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I definitely was a little underwhelmed as well. But after reviewing the pod he did go into a lot more detail than I noticed the first time through. Think I lost concentration a couple times with his stories. But I definitely would’ve guessed Jim was a member at Starmount, which has the smallest range in the Carolinas. I was hoping for more of Tron and Randy’s takes on the area but Jim did do a good job of recapping the GGO. RIP to Forest Oaks. I hear they’re trying to make another comeback though…again :joy:

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But his “recap” was bogus

Nicklaus never played Forest Oaks. He played the GGO once-in 1964. Had he held his 54 hole lead perhaps he returns; instead he begins his tradition of not playing the week before Augusta.

Fuzzy Zoeller never won the GGO once let alone twice.

Forest Oaks was built in 1962 but didn’t hold the GGO until 1977 and didn’t have a sponsor until 1988. Knnart was the original sponsor 1988-1995. Chrysler took over for 1996-2006 after Lee Iacocca retired in 1992. And they both kept “Greensboro” in the title for the duration.
Wyndhann is the one who dropped it.

Dodson balled up 40 years of BS to scapegoat “nouveau riche” Forest Oaks for all the (perceived) shortconnings of the GGO and The Triad. He’s a storyteller alright and he told a lot of stories.

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man, thank you.

as soon as i listened to the pod, i hit my buddy here and said:

'got a couple fact checks for him though. hes kinda spewing bs"

glad i wasnt the only one who felt this way…

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this pic he uses for basically everything really bothers me for some reason as well…

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Interesting fact checks. All that said, his Final Rounds book is really good as well as his biographies. Final Rounds is a great read for any father or especially any son who, like me, who lost a father too young.

He also has told some really good stories in other pods that I have heard, particularly one about Sam Snead in the ANGC parking lot.

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