Tourist Sauce Season 7: Michigan Wine and Dine

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I’ve seen a few tweets/stories the past week or so about how Tiger would hit a whole bucket of wedges without taking a blade of grass. Hit shots of putting greens with no fear of taking divots, etc.

Every time I see those stories, I just think of @soly.

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After a round this past summer I grabbed a drink with @Snellspace and @Billy_Baroo (great time fellas, genuine highlight of the summer) and we talked about the awful purgatory Low Handicaps are in. Not good enough to play in any meaningful Amateur events and not bad enough to be scooping matches/Net Score event titles. This quote is basically our thesis…

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I’d say it disputes the 50% marker someone mentioned above. Which is what I thought it did.

It doesn’t. It’s perfectly in line with the 53% expected win rate per match. That’s 47% of the time, the low cap loses. How many times out of ten would you expect “one of the five lowest caps” to win?

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And getting it mansplained to you by higher caps to top it off :joy:. Just play better!

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Couldn’t watch the premiere live, so I just caught up.

This season has been great y’all. It’s so much fun to watch and learn about these places and people in this format.

I caught myself, several times, during that video trying to figure out if (and how) we could move and I could play there regularly. Maybe it’s early winter / pandemic escapism, or maybe it’s just really compelling content. Whatever the case, cheers and thank you!

(also, I’m with Soly match play when you’re giving up a pile of strokes is hard)

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If only there was a stretch of 8(!!!) consecutive holes without strokes in which to overcome this pile of charity! :joy:

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I will say though that MDV moving up the tee on 13 was a tough blow in a match where he was already down and @Soly was very gracious to do so. :pray:t2:

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Soly explaining golf to us 15 handicaps.

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Haha when I saw you stroked the first 3 I was like “DJ is fucked” I play off a 4 against a +2 all the time and when we are at a course where I pop early and then late with a gulf of straight up golf in between he smokes me almost always. All that said, some of this talk in here is very “some of you have never played a match giving up 4 a side and it shows”

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It must really suck being good at something you love. You should probably stop trying to get better.

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The exposure has definitely increased since the pandemic, starting with Derek Duncan’s march madness twitter exercise most. But it’s still off of most peoples’ radars. I talk to people all the time, while playing golf, who have never heard of it, and it’s not that far from where I live.

And I totally get the unpopularity of the guest fee increases (unaccompanied has gotten really pricey), and the cottages have gotten prohibitively expensive for me if I’m there by myself. I still think you get a pretty secluded feel if you’re there overnight. They’ve had to walk a fine line of generating revenue without alienating the membership in the early years, and they’re navigating some different waters now, and it’s not always perfect for everyone. I don’t love all the changes but I understand them. There are more local members than people realize because a lot of people spend all summer up there.

To the staff’s credit, they’re trying to make it more member focused, and the quality of service has not decreased a bit. I love the whole vibe, but I really fell in love with the golf course, and that hasn’t waned a bit.

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Sigh. I’ll bite. It does suck sometimes. It’s hard as shit to win a net event as a 4. I have to go shoot 69 or better. There’s always a 65 net (at least). Same for the gross tourneys, gotta go fire under par, which to be fair I’ve done so it is possible to career it, but if you want to play tourneys it is a tough spot. Sorry not sorry

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It’s hard as shit to win a net event for any index. Because only one person can win, and they probably have to shoot well under their net CH. Winning is hard. You have to beat all of the other people playing.

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Cool story but I used to win when I was a 12-15 cap. I dunno

Like I said, you should probably just stop trying to get better then. I’m sure that would be more fun.

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You guys also had an easier pin there for a move up (no disrespect to an epic two). Dan should have given you a back left pin. That would have been fun! But anything right of that top shelf makes the hole really interesting from a strategic perspective.

That gut punch of strokes one 1-2-3 is tough though.

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I guess I’m saying it’s easier for a higher cap who is getting better to fire off career rounds. That’s literally the phase you’re in while getting better. When you reach that 3-4 zone it’s a plateau of very similar scores. For me at least

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Absolutely true. Because in a large field inevitably one or more mid to high handicap is going to go low. That theory doesn’t hood up in 1:1 matches.