Tourist Sauce, Ireland

Alright, my bad.

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I am willing to cede you that one of the greatest strengths of courses in GB&I is their proper use of angles. So adding width opposite those angles doesn’t diminish the challenge.

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Just finished watching this, and I’m in total agreement this is the best one yet. And my god, the sound…I had my surround sound on, and that place just punched my soul.

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Talk to any Irish caddy and one of the first things you hear is controlling your ball off the tee matters.

Different courses, countries, cultures (?) can place different emphases on varying aspects of the game.

My perception anyway

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Just finished watching.

I hope someday to be as happy as @TomCoyne looked this entire episode.

Well done, lads. Just incredible stuff.

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The larger point here is that many people cross the pond to go play links golf in the UK but leave their critical thinking back at home. And with what it costs to put together a trip over there, can you blame them?

Like a critic seeing a woke movie, they play a course only looking for positives. That’s how we end up with mediocrity like Moonlight winning Best Picture.

I think that’s a big reason why @Soly realized he never even thought about fairway width in Ireland. It’s one of the very first things I take note of when reviewing a course with friends. We have a ton of courses in the US that have tight fairways but very playable rough, but I don’t think we are so willing to excuse that same flaw back home.

An example would be Prairie Dunes, where the maintained rough is usually kept pretty playable (not the gunch). Still, the fairways should be expanded so that you are more willing to aim somewhere besides the middle of the fairway, so that balls can run into fairway bunkers, and for aesthetic reasons.

But, when it comes to links courses in the UK (not owned by Trump), many are unwilling to offer any criticism. The charm of the small towns and cozy clubhouses, and the old-fashioned quirk and history are enough to silence any reservations about the greatness of an iconic course.

But then the same people head to Cabot and nitpick everything…

What can’t you understand?

Everything you’ve posted for the last month.

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You might make good points sometimes, but then go and do this…

Just leave this at the door, man! You’ll be 100x more liked. Your takes may be hot and challenging, but that’s okay - we welcome that, when not paired with insults.

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@Eric_Denver you have made some genuinely engaging points lately and I appreciate the way you have reflected on Ireland.

But like, come on. Just skip the shit, dude. Yes it’s over the line. Be better. Next question.

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Ya that’s it for me with this clown. Not funny, very personal and just all around classless. An absolute scourge on this site. Says 1 intelligent thing to his 1,000 unintelligible comments. Tries way too hard to sound smarter than he is. I really wish he’d get out of here.

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You’ve had multiple suspensions from this site for crossing lines in personal attacks, so you don’t get to hand-wave and “play the victim”.

You need to be better and you need to start showing a track record of being better. That’s it.

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Yes, calling somebody “early onset” is too far, it doesn’t matter what they said or did.

If anyone thinks Eric didn’t intentionally decide to get people pissed off by challenging what 99.99% of us think is the best course we’ve seen via NLU and trying to stir shit up, SOLELY for the sake of stirring shit up, they’re crazy. Don’t feed the trolls, and Eric is definitively a troll (or, at least, someone who clearly seems to take pleasure - consciously or unconsciously - by stirring shit up.)

I’d also venture that the gang didn’t think about the width at places like Carne because it doesn’t matter there. To me, width is more about OB and tree lined fairways, not dunes and rough where you can still get your club on the ball. But then, that’s just me.

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By the way, you’re “I’m SO SHOCKED anyone is offended by my words” schtick is pretty tired, man. You’ve been doing it since you got to The Refuge, and you either don’t understand basic social norms, or you’re trolling for the effect you’re getting. Either way, it’s super boring and annoying.

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If you want to be a part of our community you are going to have to adhere to our standards.

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Once again, having “priors” on a golf message board is probably a sign for some introspection. Cheers, mate. Good luck.

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If you want an equal seat at the table you are going to have to earn it. You are being given a fair chance to earn it, but don’t waste it by personally insulting community members.

Well, you’re just wrong.

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