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Might play 9 at Keller tomorrow around 5:30, would anyone be interested? Want to see some of the changes.
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The April 9-15 issue of the Minneapolis/St. Paul Business Journal published the 25 “Toughest Golf Courses” in the metro-area ranked by men’s slope rating. Interesting conversation fodder…some make sense and some do not. One that jumps out to me is Rush Creek. While it’s a favorite of mine, its slope rating is dramatically over-inflated…it’s harder than Hazeltine or the Refuge?!
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Late notice but anyone want to play Olympic Hills Thurs morning at 10:12a? Had a friend joining me and he had to bail.
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Don’t spoil everyone else’s experience because you’ve found your Kryptonite course.
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If no one else has jumped on this I will. I’m sure it will beat me up, but I am up for it.
Got room for up to 3, but a spot is yours @tjl_48!
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Listen I still rully want to play there but Thursday won’t work for me
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This list makes me realize I have no idea how to interpret slope vs course rating
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I learned this the other day! Course rating is what a scratch player would shoot on average, and slope is how large the difference is between the average score of a bogey golfer and scratch golfer on a specific course. So, for example, the slope of Spring Hill is 152 (holy shit). If you divide that number by 5.381 (152/5.381=28.2) and then add it to the course rating (74.2+28.2) you get the Bogey Rating, which is about 102. A bogey golfer would shoot on average 102 from the tips at Spring Hill.
I don’t quite get why they use slope and not a bogey rating, but whatever, golf is weird.
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So that’s what I always thought too. I knew that slope is a rating for bogey golfers but apparently it can’t be compared from course to course. A high slope rating means that the difference between a scratch golfer and a bogey golfer is larger on that course. So two courses can have the same slope but not be the same difficulty for the bogey golfer. At least understanding our sport isnt super complicated haha
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@PaaSco and I are having our match at Keller next Wednesday at 230. I booked all 4 spots if two others want to join!
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Over-inflated courses seem to litter this list. One that won’t be on this list but is an “Over-Inflater” is Emerald Greens Silver Course. 74.2/134 and you can basically hit it wherever you want out there and not be punished. Also the greens are fairly flat. I blame this place for the current state of my handicap.
I understand the process of how these numbers are determined and yet, at the same time, I do NOT understand how they determine these numbers because of how wildly inaccurate I find some courses. I have a feeling if this thread tried to Power Rank the Hardest Courses in the Metro, some of these courses wouldn’t even be in the Top 20.
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This is super helpful!
Do you know how the number 5.381 was determined as part of that calculation?
No idea, I’m sure there is a reason for that number but honestly I kind of hope they just made it up.
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Is Olympic Hills private only? Can you only go with a member? Just asking because a buddy and I are playing in the Barstool Classic there and want to see the course beforehand.
Yep, OH is a private/members only club. Only masochists would decide to join there…right @LonnieMollo?
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Only those who prefer a hard 90 to an easy 85.
Definitely can get you out @pkeys07!
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