PGA 2K23 Refuge Tour - Info Post #9562 - S24 Begins 11/25

Yeah I feel ya man. It sucks. I used to play rounds occasionally for fun but it became such a grind.

Playing without tempo last night got me excited again. It all becomes about swing path and swing plane, and with master being slightly off on either you still hit decent shots but it turns birdies into pars. Unlike a red fast or slow which completely fucks your hole.

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IMO, master with no swing timing and a putting meter will be very boring for YH and CS.

Playing to -15 or lose every round for YH is a snoozefest and if you miss a few birdie putts in round 1 why bother continuing?

I’m not a wizard…but if we are going to leave the power meter on w/o swing timing at least give legend a fair shake.

I just won my first event in Strapped, haven’t played with a swing meter (besides putter) ever, and NOW we’re going to make swing changes?

I really do think PS5 must not be affected as much, because I’ve never had a fast red drive in competition. Not one.

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So I just played a round at mid pines (high wind, firm fairways and greens, fast greens, swing timing off, distance control meter for putting only) and found it quite enjoyable. I was able to just focus on feel and making sure I was putting the ball in the right places, manipulating ball flights (fade/draw), etc…

I’m fairly consistent with swing plane so drives and irons went pretty much as expected. I was able to actually get out of bunkers! Pitch shots worked!

All in all shot +2 which is actually good for me (and I didn’t really try with putting this round, so had several 3 putts).

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What’s the opposite of a humblebrag?

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Yeah, anything that reduces the importance of one factor will increase the other. I refrain from making a value judgement over whether it’s better to emphasize strategy over skill. But the strategy component basically always stays the same in the adjustments we’re discussing (it only changes relative to skill). You really can’t change that without bringing in all of the cheats that we turn off, and I haven’t heard any discussion of adding those in. I can’t even remember what they’re called.

I don’t necessarily disagree, but I think straight hop to legendary might punish the lower 2 flights quite a bit. I think we do master to start and maybe try legendary after that (and for Ryder cup)

Straight bragging homie.

I’ll follow that up by saying I think a lot of you are just soft.

Do the swing changes suck? Yes. Do they suck so bad that we need to alter the tour. No.

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Kind of have to agree with the ol swinging kid on this one. It sucks but it sucks for us all. If @JBors were instituting these alterations then we could talk. ā€œPlay the game as it’s codedā€ I believe Old Tom once said.

The real problem is that real golf and life are better than video game golf. Maybe we just need an October to April ā€œseasonā€ and mess around with courses and alternate modes in the summer?

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Yes please

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Didn’t recognize you without the coffee mug, thought you were a new gui coming in here and detonating everyone lol

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I think the bigger problem is that it’s not the same game across all the consoles. PlayStation has a clear advantage just based off the scores posted.

Again, we can’t control that. So if we change the rules everyone else will still be left behind.

In my opinion it’s just a slippery slope. I’d rather be in the trenches with everyone than on gameplay mode 18.5 subsection G trying to make it perfect

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You could also just be way cooler and get a PlayStation

Alternatively, @Jbors could really challenge himself and come up with custom, proprietary society handicaps to level the playing field.

As someone not playing the game right now, this thread fucking rules. Capital city of Butthurt Naysh and I’m here for it.

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We can though. The big difference between consoles is the swing timing. Before the updates, it was still possibly to be competitive on Xbox because timing wasn’t as big a penalty. We have an option to turn it off and level everything.

Before the updates the game was almost in a perfect spot. I am still hesitant to change but it’s also an absolute mess.

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Can we run it in the test society?

You’re right. We can’t fix it.

But if we want the society to carry on as is. Something needs to be done. There’s a lot of Xbox players that are only grinding for the league. And probably will stop sooner than later.

And if all else fails. I’ll be down to kick anyones ass in Mario golf.

Then just make an Xbox flight, it feels like we are reinventing the wheel

Fucking fascist, man.