But if Phil was good, not hooking 5 irons off the tee into hazards.
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I donât think there is a statistical measure for good luck belly rubs/pats though.
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Floyd and Hale Irwin both had impressive later career surges, and were playing at a high level in their late 40s. Irwin had a hell of a year in 1990 at age 45 winning 3 times (including the US Open). Floyd came close to winning the Masters in 90 and 92. He was ranked 14th in the world at age 50.
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You canât imagine a 49 year old Tiger playing in the Ryder Cup?
Is this contrarian to say that I canât?
To doubt Tiger is a stupid thing but Ryder Cup Tiger isnât what a lot of us romanticize.
He has only been on 1 winning team at it was 22 years ago. (I donât blame all of this on him, but putting it into perspective) I commented on it in the Ryder Cup thread.
I should also explain further that Tiger turns 46 in December of this year. After recovery and working to come back to play pro golf again (if that is what he wants to do) the question will be how he elects to play events going forward. Not saying he wouldnât/couldnât play but unsure if it will happen.
Listened to half of this pod so far. In combination with this pod, other podcasts, articles and literature I have read, I have a take that I am ironing out. Here it is.
Seve seems like he was the Patrick Reed of his era. Seems like he was always toeing the line with rules, getting in competitors faces and just being an all around shady character that needed to be monitored at all times. The only difference is because he passed early in his life, there seems to be this filter/aura placed over his actions that make it seem âfunâ, âquirkyâ and just a âserious competitorâ.
I want to clarify, his winning and greatness does seem to contribute to this filter that we see him through today and obviously Reed as a long way to go in terms of mimicking his success, I just think the similarities in personality and âdo whatever it takes to winâ mentality need to be looked at.
Tell me where the disconnect is here or is this entirely accurate?
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Seve oozed swag, came from very humble beginnings, and had an amazing ability to pull of miraculous shots. He didnât have the reputation of a cheater in general even if he was accused of employing a lot of gamesmanship during team events, and called for a couple of questionable drops during his day.
Reed is unlikeable because, heâs unlikeable. Reed has the rep of a cheater (everywhere), and isnât particularly exciting to watch and heâs definitely not photogenic.
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Do you also think itâs to do with the media coverage available nowadays? Every shot/situation being covered for Reed whereas a lot less of them were for the likes of Seve?
I love Seveâs swashbuckling ways and taking down team USA in the Ryder cup but I also think heâs a bit of a dick!
He comes across really badly in his own book and Iâve always thought the point of writing your own book was to make you seem good!
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Stop trying to make Patrick Reed happen. This board only has room for one Patrick Reed fan anyway, and thatâs @Darikashi.
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If you think Reed isnât fun to watch, youâve never seen him around the green.
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I just wanted to tell @Soly this podcast was really well done, and I know it was a lot of work.
I remember watching the 1991 Ryder Cup, golf was very much more jingoistic back then.
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The disconnect is that he had the charisma of Arnold Palmer, which made everything different.
Seve said the American team was 11 nice guys and Paul Azinger. I always loved that.
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Finally finished listening. Amazing job by Soly. Thoroughly enjoyed it and has me pumped for the Ryder Cup this year.
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I listened to this pod while walking 20km yesterday (nbd). Hereâs how Iâd sum up the entire 91 Ryder Cup
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For as much as the older guys like to talk about how tough and gritty the tour was before Tiger they all still sound like the pampered fucks we know today
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At least they were openly mean to each other and leaned into golf as entertainment.
But was it thuggishly jingoistic?
(All credit to @Soly from episode 163 yes I remember it that wellâŚnerd alert)
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I wonder how much of our community had to research the players since they werenât even born when the 91 cup was played.
Also the fact that they didnât want Nicklaus on their team is beyond crazy.
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