2024 Refuge Roosts: Local Clubs & Club Championship Outline

just so you know - you sound butthurt as hell. especially given your previous posts about banning net golf.

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just when you think you’re out….they keep sucking you back in……

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Community policing at its best. The complaint* was handled swiftly and decisively.

*about a format all competing parties negotiated and agreed on in advance

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@RolandOfGilead protecting us all, thank him for his service

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Are you suggesting that folks might want to fuck with your “Deep South region”?

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If I have ever been exclusionary or anything less than welcoming and encouraging to someone taking up the game of golf, regardless of skill level or experience, shame on me. I suppose we’d have to ask around the norcal group to see if that’s the case, but I hope they’d tell me too.

If an online message board thread for a two-year old made up competition with no stakes, referencing an obviously tongue-in-cheek blog post, on a day after a team shot 17 over their quota is not an ok place to bitch about the handicap system then i guess nowhere is.

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If everyone just played better then none of this would be an issue

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FWIW you only seem exclusionary and less than welcoming when it comes to playing competitive golf. Which is also sad.

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Or maybe, don’t shit on someone who has an incredibly successful day. Even if you were just joking, which it didn’t seem too jovial and more of a “just asking questions” vibe, it’s pretty damn deflating for higher index players to get these kind of snide comments when they do actually win something or play very well by their standards.

No one says a thing when those players shoot 110, or when the low single digit players still dominate most of even the net events, as well as just about any type of side competition at big events.

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Yeah this right here. I still get nervous to come out and do events with my high cap, because I tend to do well in them because of how I get to my high cap, because I’m always worried someone like this will get worked up about it and make it uncomfortable. It gets less so each time out there as I’ve played with more people, and people from a few different roosts who can vouch for the extreme ups and downs of my game, but it’s always in he back of my mind because of posts like this

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I think everyone should play competitive golf! It’s super fun to handle the nerves of counting them all and putting down a score. I push back on the notion that it’s only valuable to ‘win’ which is I guess the reason behind needing net events. But in the case of NLU stuff, where you’re trying to gather people from a bunch of different golf backgrounds and build a community + need some way to qualify for the national events, net events absolutely make sense.

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Btw Big Plex won the Texahoma regional this weekend. We played net stroke play, hitting cups, both rounds, ultimately counting 7/8 rounds. Our 20 index played awesome, as did our 3 low caps. Last year, the scratch and plus caps at Supercell blew the doors off of us and the low caps at STROHs. Variety is the spice of life. And we all had fun too, despite playing on the surface of Perry Maxwell’s sun.

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I’m here to defend the high handicaps too. I’ve seen it so many times that someone can’t believe after one round that someone is so or so handicap because how they played that day. You’d have to be playing golf for the first time in your life to not understand the day to day vagaries of golf.

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It sucks that you feel this way and I apologize if I have contributed to that. I hear your comments too @DuckDuckHook and I’ll try to be more careful about my comments on the matter. I’m not trying to shit on anyone for having a genuinely great day or on high caps for playing well. People shouldn’t have to feel bad about playing well.

To me this is further evidence that the current system isn’t great. My guess is you’re a pretty high variance player, and I don’t think the current system does a great job of handling that. Either you play well and you blitz everyone, or you play poorly and have no chance. But we don’t need to re-litigate this yet again.

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Tell me more about this competitive format where winning isn’t the goal.

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I mean this is the participation trophy thing in a nutshell here. Everyone wants to do their best. IMO the self satisfaction from competing is enough on its own. I’ve never advanced through a USGA or State AM qualifier or won a city/county AM event, but I still play in them and enjoy them and am motivated to get better. And if I did do it one time? That would be amazing. It would feel like an even bigger accomplishment.

It’s much hotter than the cameras make it appear, job well done @BigPlex:


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For me, it’s less of a round-to-round variance than it is hole to hole. I’ll run a couple pars in and then go triple-quad. My handicap is, unfortunately, very legit, but the way I get to that handicap makes me better than most at stableford/quota. But this all goes along the same lines if it sometimes feeling uncomfortable to want to take a cart at NLU events because everyone here makes it feel like you aren’t a real golfer if you aren’t walking every/most round. It is what it is and I don’t think any of us are mad about it, but it’s worth everyone thinking about the effect of gatekeeping “real” golf so adamantly on here, even if we all do secretly, and not so secretly, want to shrink the game

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