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anyone have a 3.0 I can try out for a bit?

Honestly it’s because Whoop is horrible. Even the new one is not great on accuracy. But more than that their recovery score is complete BS and ignores known things that happen to people and instead assumes they are good things.

For example, it is a known thing that when someone is over tired they will have a lower resting heartbeat (and it will be harder to get it to go high the next day) and they may have a higher HRV as well. But you see, Whoop does not put your previous day’s activity into it’s algo, so if you go insanely hard one day and your resting HR is low the next day whoop only sees the low HR and assumes that’s a good thing. Again, because they’re stupid and they think they know better than all the established science.

Or another example, when they show the heart rates of the tour guys live while they’re playing. I can guarantee you in the PNC Justin Thomas was not sitting at a 120 heart rate while playing. I would bet he was more like 75-90 most of the time. Why? 1) He is in very good shape 2) There was very little reason for his HR to be high from nerves as it was the effing PNC and 3) Golf in a cart is not strenuous.

I had a whoop, it seemed awesome, until you dug in and realized its 100% grade A bullshit.

Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk Rant.

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I’m genuinely curious and don’t know, but in my head, wouldn’t one hard day make your resting heart right higher the following day, due to recovering and having to work harder from fatigue?

Sometimes. Not always though. If you go do a normal fairly hard workout you will often see a higher resting heart rate after. But sometimes when you’re stringing together lots of hard training over a period of time the opposite can occur. I remember in 2006 I was training heavily for marathons, like over 100 miles a week for many weeks on end. When I got to the taper and began to refresh my resting heart rate increased and it freaked me out till my coach told me about this.

The same can happen with HRV, and actually it happens way more often with a single very strenuous day. But like I said whoop doesn’t take your previous day’s work into account and acts like that high hrv in isolation is a always a good thing.

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Interesting, I certainly don’t do intense training, 3 gym workouts a week with either golf or occasional runs mixed in.
I get your critique with accuracy, I’ve mentioned before in this thread about my accuracy concerns with the 3.0. Just got the 4, so we will see how that goes

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Yes. It’s all bullshit and made up. Enjoy the entropy, I say.

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I mean that’s every fitness tracker.

My Apple Watch will track random activities as “30 min of activity” that whoop doesn’t that I wouldn’t say is activity.

Oura is doing the same as whoop but with a different algorithm.

Fitbit started out as a glorified pedometer

At the end of the day they’re trying to make you healthier. What you choose to do with the data is up to you.

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Anyone else having issues getting the 4.0 to charge when it arrives. I can’t seem to get the thing to work.

Plug in the battery pack to the wall while it’s in the whoop. Worked for me

Yeah I’ve been doing that and still not much luck. Just going to leave it all together and in the wall for awhile to see if it finally picks it up.

You tap the charger pack? (I know sounds dumb but have to do that to “wake” the wireless charger)

Plugged in every way possible and been tapping everything I can. Reached out to whoop and awaiting a response.

Try plugging it in to a laptop USB port with the strap on it.

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That was one of the things I did attempt too. LED on the pack is green and been plugged in so long I think it’s an issue with the connection between it and the actual unit.

Did you take the fabric strap off the unit and plug just the whoop itself in?

Yup. I wanted to bang my head against a wall last night. Today just accepted it seems to be fucked up.

Bummer. My battery pack for 4.0 failed after one use when I first got it. Took 2 or 3 weeks for a replacement.

Keeping my 3.0 as a backup was useful while I waited

Started to notice this the last 5 days or so I’ve had the 4.0, that it loses battery fast
I charged it fully from about 20% yesterday morning. I’m at 76% right now.
Has anyone else seen similar battery life from their 4.0?

I had this when I first got my 4.0. Whenever they released a firmware update sometime after that, it improved. I will say, I don’t think the battery life is as long as the 3.0 in my experience.

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Covering blood oxygen, skin temp, more sensors, smaller unit… I suppose one compromise had to be made

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