Tourist Sauce: The Carolinas

Mike Richards was winning cups, popping pills, doing blow as recently as 2014. Jarret Stoll definitely partaking.

If anything, drinking/smoking/doing drugs AND competing at a high level means you are superior.

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SPORTS are games that people have played while on illicit STIMULANTS. Hence the cocaine era in the NBA, Doc Gooden, people getting pinched for amphetamines, etc.

GAMES are games that can be played while on downers/chillers, such as booze and weed.

It all gets a bit more complicated when people who do both play the same game. Or when people do both at the same time. Or nicotine, which is both. Or Vodka and Red Bull.

It’s an onion there are so many layers.

But who can say for sure.

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this post was a roller coaster

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It’s one of the hundreds of reasons why marijuana being a banned substance for the NFL is such a joke. There’s nothing about that drug that makes it give you an ADVANTAGE on the field. It’s potentially a help in recovery (and one that’s far healthier than the pills the NFL doesn’t care about at all, All Hail Big Pharma), but anyone who’s ever gotten high knows it’s not going to help you run a faster 40, stay focused on a complex game plan, block a 300-lb defender, etc. It’s banned because the league is run by old conservative folks who have always been told and believed that it’s extremely bad for you and don’t want to listen to science.

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except there are a bunch of people in the NBA, NFL, and MLB who routinely drank/smoked weed before or during games

A more compelling argument than vices and poor nutrition for golf being a skill vs sport would be guys taking 2 minutes to miss an eight footer.
Brooks either has to stand by and watch or protest by walking off.
How about after 30 seconds, the rest of the group can tackle the violator… auto double bogey. Now were getting into the sport range of the dial

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It’s banned because it’s mostly been illegal until very recently, and still is in some places.

Yes, but that’s true in other sports but the NBA and MLB basically don’t test for it because they recognize it’s legal in so many places, etc. The NFL could take that approach, but they haven’t. Yet.

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Including the entirety of the USA under federal law.

See, e.g. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2020/01/michigan-medical-marijuana-seller-gets-prison-federal-law-has-not-changed-judge-says.html%3FoutputType=amp

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Look, I get it. But the NFL is an outlier, and it also has a lot of players who use it, and who need pain management, and the current situation has the legal incentives for them to use oxycontin and the like instead of smoking a joint. I’m not here to say that the latter is a solution for their pain, but the fact remains that selling weed vs buying or using weed are two different things, and it’s all so stupid

Look, I get it, and I STRONGLY support legalization at the federal level. But the fact remains that it’s still currently illegal under federal law, and the NFL has to be cognizant of that when making policy, especially under a Republican-controlled White House and Senate.

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We’re on the same page, so don’t take this as a challenge to YOU, but just to further the argument … if I agree with your statement, then why don’t the NBA and MLB have to do the same? I think it comes down to the agreements with the Players Union, where in the other two sports the players have FAR more control and say over the rules of the road. (This is certainly a fact, that they have said control, whether it applies to drug policy is an open question I guess.) That means the owners of the NFL are the ones playing it conservative, which is true to form.

The PGA chooses to willfully not test drivers, essentially. The NFL could choose not to test for weed. Lots of employers do drug testing but ignore anything showing THC. The NFL COULD do that but actively choose not to. Why?

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Well, one reason could be that the NFL has had more high-profile criminal cases against its players and is subject to closer scrutiny. Being seen as taking a step backward on player discipline and looking the other way wrt a federal crime is likely to draw the unwanted attention of the kind of elected official who’s not embarrassed to demand congressional hearings on things like videotaping signals and underinflated footballs.

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Fair, and also the fact that until recently they had tax-exempt status put them under the watchful eye (or, at least, did so in theory) … all good.

Wasn’t this thread about Tourist Sauce? How about @djpie looking slim and shooting a 76?

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I know! It’s soooo confusing. It’s like Fax taking anti-theShits meds en route to winning…that should be stripped!

do they really though?

im pretty sure its no longer a banned substance in the NBA and as a result, they no longer test for it and there are countless employers in the US that dont drug test their employees…

so what does this need to be the NFL’s policy?

nevermind, NBA still tests for marijuana…carry on

Because as I noted above, Congress pays a lot closer attention to the NFL than it does to nearly any other business.

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how many congressmen are getting drug tested?

Do you have a point here? I’ve already stated I support legalization. But to be honest with you, I’m not shedding too many tears for pro athletes getting drug tested. They have a union, and a path to change the policy if it’s so important to them.

On the other hand, a cancer patient who uses doctor-prescribed marijuana forfeits her constitutionally-guaranteed right to own and possess a firearm. And there’s nothing she can do about it.

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