Oh shit, @iacas vs. @Joezwickl straight up? I need a front row seat for this action.
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When it’s firm, and when you can drive it into an area that’s about five yards wide consistently. Because anything but the far right side of the fairway just adds on the yardage.
And if by some chance you do as a +0.5, good for you. The course is easy, and the decisions are straightforward unless you’re incredibly dumb or foolish.
i play a full bag of 8 irons, they’re all different lofts though
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mega rejection!
Even if the decisions are’t as difficult as commonly claimed, it seems cool to have the opportunity to attempt crazy stuff. Like play 1 round normally or trying for best score, and then play a second being as aggressive as possible and then laughing when you get into crazy tough spots, like neil above
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I’m in for this for sure.
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How is it a lay up if you are trying to hit a fade on to that green?
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Just don’t come begging for episode bailouts because you didn’t save six episodes ahead like a responsible content company.
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I didn’t say that. I said hitting it 20 yards left. That’s still a layup.
Fact remains that for 98% or so of golfers, the hole is an easy choice: driver into an 80-yard-wide fairway, 6- or 7-iron into a 40-yard-wide layup, 50-70-yard wedge to a long green.
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I played TR back in October. I hit it just in the massive waste area on the corner with my drive. I pulled 6i from 185 up hill out of the sand and held the green. 2-putt birdie. Idk but you be trippin dawg. @Swaggy_P is my witness.
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I drove up by the tree and hit 6iron onto the back fringe
Maybe the “smart” play is aiming left but the fun play is going for it.
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Every other yardage is short of 185, give or take a few yards for a hole location.
Ideally the course is firm. If you play it when it’s soft, that changes the math a bit.
ok now draw a line from the corner of the bunker by the tree. getting it to there you play less over the bunker and more around it
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I would also agree that going for it from this angle you have presented isn’t a good idea. those trees are pretty tall on the right
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Which changes things, sure. Most people aren’t getting it all that close to the tree.
The angle I drew was only to illustrate how tough it was to get to 185 from the right waste area. Any place further up the fairway is < 185.
Look, guis, I’m not saying you never go for the green. If it’s soft, the math changes. If you can hit an 8I (sorry, Nandy) 175 and you hit it in the right edge of the fairway, go for it. My book talks about the advantages of going for it as a general rule.
But most of the time, and for most golfers, and by “most” in both cases I don’t just mean 51%, but much more… the decision and best play is simple, and kinda boring, and kinda easy.
except when the pin is on the right. playing a 40-70 yard pitch from the left over the spine with a green that is all of the sudden running away from you. very hard to stop it when its firm from that angle
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So you leave yourself a 25-footer, or a slightly shorter uphill putt from the fringe.
After accounting for the sand and up hill it was playing 185. From the corner that sticks out by the tree its probably only 165? Either way, I hit 6 and the shot is definitely possible.
Isn’t this a big reason why we play golf? To prove to ourselves we can execute what we envision beforehand? What is the point if you have a defeatist attitude and hit another ho hum, 100 yard lay up? (I do not advocate this approach in tournament golf). On a small scale, you will always think, “What if?” On the larger scale, that’s not the attitude that started this community and is certainly not the attitude that continues to drive it forward to things like the Strong Like Stella Cincinnati Open or Maxamania (S/O @anon3021505 for the fundraising efforts there) The ethos is in the name. No Laying Up.
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that’s only if you hit a perfect shot. come up short and youre looking at more like 40-50 ft up over the spine. go little long and you’re off the green or go 2 ft right of middle you end up down in the bunker you are trying to avoid on your 2nd shot