That is completely misconstruing what I said.
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Where do you suggest we should have drawn the line on which courses to consider for each state?
That is a fair question and I admittedly haven’t given it a fair shake or a full watch. But when I saw the reel about all the long island and CA courses it just strikes a nerve with how exclusive those courses are. I would love to play those but I wouldnt even be allowed to step foot on them.
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There are two VERY EASY ways to play the courses striking a nerve with you.
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Take a massive pay cut and become a club pro. Work for about 2-4 years as an assistant pro at some entry level club/course, scour the PGA job directory, interview and land a position at an upper end private club in your area, play in some section/chapter events and network with pros at the courses you want to play and WALLA!, you’ve just bagged Piping Rock.
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Get into Penn, study finance, get an MBA at Columbia, intern at PwC, interview and get a job at Goldman Sachs, join Deepdale, play in some interclub events, and WALLA!, you’ve just bagged The Creek.
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Do we need to bust out the Laz rant on networking?
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He’s not wrong. He just said it in his Laz way.
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Normally I’d ride pretty hard for the Midwest, but given that we only get 5-7 months of golf weather per year I cannot in good conscience endorse any state in this region.
This was excellent and I love the game but I can’t be the only one tearing my hair out about the fact that Wyoming is the smallest state, at over 500,000, which would round up to 1…meaning they could have just rounded instead of always going up. I want to stress again that I enjoyed it. I probably have OCD.
I considered high end resorts public options and just went with private courses (I also haven’t listened to the pod yet but I assumed access is not an issue). This was a fun exercise and might change each time I do it:
Colorado – 6 (Ballyneal, Cherry Hills, Colorado GC)
Michigan – 10 (Crystal Downs, Oakland Hills, Kingsley)
Nebraska – 2 (Sand Hills, Prairie Club, Omaha CC)
Wisconsin – 6 (Blue Mound, Lido, Pine Hills)
Georgia – 11 (Augusta, Peachtree, Ohoopee)
South Carolina – 5 (Old Barnwell, Tree Farm, Yeamans). Loved my trip to Aiken in October.
New Jersey – 9 (Pine Valley, Somerset Hills, Baltusrol)
Rhode Island – 1 (Wannamoisett, Misquamicut, Newport CC)
Left on the cutting room floor:
Massachusetts – 7 (Eastward Ho!, Brookline, Old Sandwich) – Is Taconic public or private? Let me ask the Strapped boys
Ohio - that would mean I would have to spend time in Ohio
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As someone who gets bent out of shape a lot about closed gates golf here in the states (and I say this as a member of a private club), I think it’s quite clear that @BamaBearcat and @Tron were just trying to choose the Best States for Golf. There’s a reason Golf Magazine has one list of Top 100 courses and one for Top 100 You Can Play. (There are lot of other reasons, too.)
The hate on Whistling Straits was a bit off-putting (I thought I’d hate it and liked it a lot) but it was absolute heresy for Tron to state he prefers Blackwolf Run River over it, because that course is absolute cheeks
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My favorite beach in Hawaii just down the street.
Edit:
I proposed to my wife somewhere on the Pill Box hike just above Mid Pacific, it made a cameo in the first post engagement photo.
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Love this! Looking forward to hitting the links next week.
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@Tron thanks for the Cleveland MetroParks shoutout. Manakiki and Sleepy Hollow are both so good. Walking either for ~40 bucks in the summer are on the list of best deals anywhere in the country. Our second tier of publics in NEO are really solid considering the cost for most.
Tron and/or @BamaBearcat if either of you had taken Ohio, which private courses are you taking?
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Camargo, Inverness and Scioto
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Hide the money y’all there’s poor people about
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North Carolina and South Carolina are the right answers, but the slander against some of the down-rankings courses in Georgia is stunning.
North Carolina private:
Old Town
Wade Hampton
Eagle Point
(HM’s not mentioned in the vid - Mountaintop, Eagle Point, Highlands CC, Biltmore Forest)
NC publics are all resort courses in pinehurst + wilmington Muni.
SC Private:
OB
Yeamans
Chechessee Creek
SC public:
Aiken GC
Furman is the only decent public in Upstate SC
Broomsedge should count since they have tee time availability
Caledonia
Charleston Muni
The three big Georgia private courses are easy - ANGC, Peachtree, Ohoopee
But the lowcountry of GA has some good options - Frederica, Ocean Forest, Seaside @ Sea Island, etc. Better than 90% of florida courses (which admittedly stink)
Not familiar w Atlanta area publics, but North Georgia has some good options - McLemore x2, The Farm, Lookout Mountain is private but also a strong course for the state value. Georgia a stronger golf state than it gets credit for
@Tron Come play Rivermont over Xmas.
As a native Virginian, I must say @BamaBearcat and @Tron nailed my home state. A few outstanding private options (Olde Farm, Kinloch) and a couple of decent resort courses (Homestead, Kingsmill) but overall, disappointing for such a financially healthy state.
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Curious for @BamaBearcat and @Tron that if the math hadn’t made California and New York essentially impossible to select, how fast would they have gone, and which would go first?
Rhode island - 2: wannamoisett, Newport cc, wanumetonomy
Nebraska - 2: sand hills, dismal red, cap rock ranch
Connecticut - 4: cc of Fairfield, tamarack, round hill club (assuming Yale counts as non-resort public)
Oregon - 5: pac dunes, old Mac, bandon trails
South Carolina - 6: yeamans hall, old barnwell, country club of Charleston
Wisconsin - 6: lido, Milwaukee cc, blue mound
Colorado - 6: ballyneal, Colorado golf club, cherry hills
Massachusetts - 8: old sandwich, myopia hunt club, eastward ho!
Michigan - 11: Oakland hills, Crystal downs, Kingsley
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