Nah I just need a camera LM for my home setup that’s got club data. I know the requirements just gotta get there without inducing bad habits.
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I think I would agree. I could imagine the first hour or so of that trip going great and then it would become an ultimate grind!
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The guy was an entertaining listen and seemed relatively self aware but gimme a break with being up at 1am reading physics textbooks for fun
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I wouldn’t bet much on your take there… 
He was kinda exhausting imo. When he compared himself to good will hunting I kinda figured out what we were in for.
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Yeah… basic trigonometry is not that difficult. That’s mostly what the D-Plane is. It’s like five minutes of knowledge.
I meant to add more examples, and then was going to end with “Ball sitting on a tight fairway lie or hardpan? Probably don’t want to use the bounce on that one.”
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I’ll just texas wedge/putt it to some grass somewhere cuz I know I’m not hitting a good shot from hardpan.
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Sounds like he might be doing work in Nashville too.
Absolutely loved this pod.
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Pretty sure he’s moved to Nashville full time.
My chipping and pitching was mediocre at best until I quit trying to have neutral shaft lean and using the bounce a few years ago. I just had to try something different. Went to more of a feeling of leaning the shaft and hitting a low spinner as my stock shot, so running into Joe mixing it up on instagram a year or two ago was a real treat for me. Slowly got more vsp after listening to him and it’s done wonders for me.
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I think the point that doesn’t get adequate airtime in these, “steep vs. shallow” debates relates to low point control. Pro’s are ELITE with low point control which allows them to be 1,000% better than I no matter what their technique.
I think amateurs can maximize their current skillset by understanding their low point control tendencies and modifying their technique to compliment their low point tendency.
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Modifying technique to improve low point control seems like it would be the more effective option for most looking to maximize potential, yeah?
I think your point is spot on. If you want to raise your ceiling - absolutely. Updated my post 
Listening to that pod brought up so many memories. I used to be a moderator on Manzella’s Forum before the social media revolution destroyed most of those. I remember when Joe first started posting as “trackmanmaestro” or “tallvolfan” I can’t remember which and would engage in online arguments and bickering like no one else.
The man got lucky as hell being one of the first with a Trackman and he learned a ton from Manzella and others. He got even more lucky befriending Grant Waite. However like most things with Joe, relationships with him don’t last very long. I still regularly talk with Mike Granato of the AMG golf guys and some of the stories on tour about him are unreal.
Anyway, thanks for the trip down memory lane.
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Yes, Joe spent a lot of hours on the phone with me, my teaching partner, Brian Manzella, and undoubtedly 10 others (Andy Plummer, etc.). He generally leaves that out of his conversations…
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I remember you too. Meant to say that in my last post!
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I went into this pod completely blind of any knowledge of the man other than the thoughts of “he helped Hovland a ton” and “he’s not everybody’s cup of tea” with no frame of reference to any message board commentary or other stories or podcasts he has done over time.
I see the “he’s not everybody’s cup of tea”… but the man knows how to tell a story and is extremely intelligent. I don’t think he’s telling the whole truth of the story and you do have to read between the lines, but he’s absolutely going to keep you captivated while he tells you his version of events.
If you strip away the personality, and you just look at it as “Here’s a guy who is seemingly a savant with a trackman AND somehow he worked his way up to coaching tour players AND he used to play poker professionally AND he only has one working eye!?”…that’s a super interesting human being no matter what.
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No doubt. He’s an interesting guy. His history in golf instruction is even more interesting. I don’t dislike him, but you always had to keep an eye on him.
Again… that’s five minutes of knowledge if you have a grasp of trigonometry. I teach my twelve-year-olds this stuff. He was just “early.”
Down is out (and up is in) relative to the baseline or the “swing direction.” So you often don’t even really need to know the trig… it just helps when you’re dealing with a better player talking about changing ball location, etc.
Ha ha. Not sure that phrasing was completely intentional, but… ha ha.
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