Brandel Chamblee joins the pod - June 2024!

I won’t disagree with the slow downs because of those rulings. However, back to my USGA example, I have an obligation to pick up the pace as much as I can post that ruling happening. That is the part that seems to not happen, at least from an outside viewer/observer depending if I’m going or watching on TV.

As much as the various tours say they want faster rounds, it also means they get to sell more advertising when people take longer. It’s very much them talking out of both sides of their mouth.

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Rulings should take 10 seconds. Because every group should have a walking rules official that calls it right away.

Sure. But the real problem is split tees. If the golf were a line this isn’t an issue. With split tees, it’s a circle and a traffic nightmare. Public courses I play that do split tees are routinely 5 hour rounds. Tour pros making that 5:30 is reasonable.

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Are you doing split tees. If not, it’s not the same problem.

Yes. We have 27 holes and use all 3 9s for tee times.

How many hours of tee times on each nine before the crossover?

Tee times on all of them go from 7-12. Afternoons on weekends we cut down to 18 and do a family 9

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Until the dreaded second opinion is asked for and then the rover 3 holes over gets called in.

The U.S. Open used to do an official with every group but stopped because it wasn’t sustainable. I think the British Open is the only big event that still does it.

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So there’s tee times from 7am-noon on all 3 9s? How do the groups turning from other 9s slot in?

That’s what I’m asking about.

Between groups, barely slows down because everybody actually gives a shit about playing at a normal pace.

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Interesting, I’d love to see this from a birdseye view because that wouldn’t work more often than it does.

Credit to the membership

It absolutely takes the whole of the membership and the pros being sure people understand the expectations.

Longest round last year at the club was 4:15 late on a Saturday afternoon when it was more about having a bunch of fun with buddies than worrying about pace.

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It’s funny, split tees were created to prevent the car crash in the morning ruining a whole day off a single tee. Now it just ruins one of the waves instead.

At the end of the day 156 players, playing a 7000+ yard course, all having to get the ball in the hole, is too many golfers. I view that as a different discussion than how the tour makes decisions with managing traffic but it’s still true.

Nope, no second opinions.

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It’s 52 tee times. Get rid of waves and all go off the first tee. Rules official with each group. Get on your horse boys this is a “sport” after all.

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No shot the Tour is finding 52 rules officials willing to do that travel/put up with the players shit.

This doesn’t even include opposite field events, KFT, etc.

It would be incredible but I don’t see it happening

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Then it’s not a real sports league and none of this matters. Just go back to the 70s hit and giggles.

If you can’t find 52 people willing to take a salary to know golf rules then what are we even doing here?

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Take a salary and never see their families since the Tour basically never stops. The LPGA posts job openings for Rules Officials on an annual basis because it’s not fun to travel for 80% of your year.

“You going to be home for your son’s birthday? Nope, gotta fly to Memphis in August, I haven’t had a day off in 6 months”

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There are too many rules officials and rules delays as it is.

Pro golfers shouldn’t need anyone to tell them how to get relief from a cart path.

Now every foursome needs a babysitter? Cmon. Golf is interesting because you don’t have a ref breathing down your neck calling “fouls”. Don’t even try to make it like other sports.

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Why not set a time limit on rulings too? You can ask for relief but if you can’t figure it out in 3 minutes you get a penalty shot AND have to play it as it lies.