You never had a couple drinks and ended up a party where you loosely knew a few people? Really?
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I figured there would have been a pre-planned after-party with her staff.
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This right here.
There just wasn’t enough balance between exploring the characters, and moving the storyline along.
I still enjoyed the season a ton. But the balance between character development and plot advancement was off. And that was a little frustrating. In a vacuum you have all of these terrific episodes that are great on their own. But at the end of S3:E10 nothing much has changed from the start of S3:E1.
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I think this was the scene that took me out of the story the most. Why in the hell are parts of the Ever staff hanging out with people from The Bear instead of the Ever staff hanging out all together. It made no sense to me.
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Maybe there was an after party at a nearby bar and this was the after hours party. Just like we can probably assume Richie didn’t leave Ever after his week there and just never return or talk to anyone but Jess again, sometimes stuff just happens off camera because it isn’t at all important to show
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Guess this is how I will have to watch all my favorite shows going forward then.
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Why are people craving closure or progress in character (I’m not saying those were lacking or existed in spades this season)?
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Why did you like ice chips? I’m assuming you liked it, if not just play along!
If you don’t like Jamie Lee Curtis I don’t know what to tell you.
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…I didn’t say that. I liked the episode. I’m asking you why you liked it.
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Spoilers
Because it’s a wonderfully acted intimate episode, where a daughter reluctantly relies on her emotional abusive black hole of a mother for the birth of her child.
It plays on the shows own past of how awful Donna has been and subverts your expectations because she handles it pretty well all told.
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The start of the story.
And how awful she is early on in the hospital. Almost like it’s the middle of a story.
And it’s almost like there’s an ending! It’s a story that begins, develops, and then ends. All within a single episode. It’s almost like people like when things develop and have some sort of conclusion. The episode would have not been good if the husband showed up before mother and daughter had their reconciliation. Much like how I (and others) feel like this season ended before there was any reconciliation.
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Almost like the show will have a beginning, a middle, and an end too. Why are you so focused on the time constraints of said beginning middle and end only when it’s convenient for your side of the argument?
You’ve made some really terrible points in here. If you don’t like it, that’s fine. But baiting posters and then doing some weird gotcha thing is, well, something.
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I mean he can think all he wants that he made good points, but if he thinks he’s “gotten me” on my question of
I didn’t say either of those things were bad, or unnecessary just questioning why every single story needed to “move forward” or wrap up or every character needed an arc.
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They released it as a season of tv. What am I supposed to evaluate a season on other than itself?
All I did was turn the exact same question around. Why do people like closure? I don’t know. But people do! And that includes people that are fine with the season. The only difference is that it seems like some are willing to ignore that flaw in the season on the promise that it pays off in season 4. Others are not and don’t find it to be a good season of tv as a result.
The whole, and currently incomplete body of work maybe?
I know it’s crazy, but did you watch lord of the rings and say
“Why the fuck didn’t they wrap the story up” at the end of the fellowship of the ring?
I mean, ya didn’t but okay.
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I didn’t need closure on every single arc, but the previous two seasons were propulsive and working towards an end. Now that I’ve heard FX asked the creators to stretch the series out to four seasons, it makes more sense why this season felt meandering in comparison - but I don’t think the show is immune from criticism because of this.
It’s cool that they tried something different with those constraints in mind, but it didn’t work for me and it lost much of what makes the series special, YMMV.
I don’t think an adaptation of the most famous fantasy series is a fair comparison (assuming you’re talking about the Peter Jackson films) - we all knew there was much more to come. Regardless, I think Fellowship works well as a stand-alone work.
In our discussion today, I was reflecting on my reaction to the latest Spider-Verse movie. That too left me cold with its cliffhanger and I thought the third act was meandering and killing time to get to part three.
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I completely agree, and I’m not here to stifle dissent.
And I do think this is an imperfect season, but I liked the changes of pace it provided episode to episode and in comparison to the first 2 seasons.
It’s an extreme example for sure, and in comparison this season isn’t going to work well stand alone because it’s the middle season, so there is a lot of missing context.
But I will argue that yearning for conclusion or development doesn’t make something good.
As with one of the themes of the season “less, strip it down”
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I agree with that - after all Empire Strikes Back is (generally) the most beloved Star Wars film - but execution is important and I think this season of The Bear is an example of poor execution.
One of my all-time favorite shows is The Sopranos and David Chase loved never giving the audience the payoff they craved. But even then, each season felt satisfying and thematically complete on their own.
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Main character syndrome much? 
Just can’t deal with all these people for whom the season “was over their heads”? 
Gee, it’s almost like people get to have a different opinion, and can still like the show while thinking that season 3 wasn’t as good as seasons 1 and 2.