The YIPS


#21

I was there, man. Back in 2012 I couldn’t find a line to save my life. The Friday night before our club championship I was on ebay looking for side saddle putters and just happened to find a guy who lived on the way to the course. We met at a gas station and he gave me the putter. Pracitced for a hot 10 minutes and shot 71-73 and took 2nd. I anchored which made it SUPER easy but I’ve gone away from it in the last few years. It certainly made golf fun again.


#22

I hit two consecutive 9 iron hosel rockets directly into an “out of play” pond last night during my walk. So if that qualifies as the Yips, then yes.


#23

Wow that’s great. I always wondered how Ernie overcame them. He was a wreck for a few years and now he’s putting all right and enjoying the game again.


#25

I won’t be surprised if his putter/the Bloodline putter is banned before long. I’m far from a rules expert (and it seems to be completely legal under the current rules), but in my mind having your putter be able to stand on its own while you align it from behind seems equally as questionable as anchoring.


#26

I’m in the midst of a really bad case of the lefts off the tee. My left arm through impact is practically non-existent even when I specifically try to remember extending it and getting left wrist flat at impact. Probably going to buckle down and get a lesson after the storm.


#27

I haven’t dealt with this problem outside of the occasional head scratcher wondering why/how a bad shot happened, but I play semi-regularly with a guy who is going through a form of the dreaded Y-word for the past couple years. While taking a shot with any iron, hybrid, fairway wood, he dives at the ball. His practice swings look beautiful. But when he stands over the ball to play, he dips/dives every time. He doesn’t do it with the driver and is a decent putter. Really screwed with his distances and now he has to hit a hybrid from anywhere outside of 150 yards. Awful to watch and I feel so bad but don’t know what to tell him other than its a mental thing. Sounds like several say this is a disease, but maybe you could share some treatments you used to help get you out of that dark place?


#28

During my round today I hooked my tee shot on 9. For the rest of the round I hit every tee shot pretty much the exact same. 245 with a draw. I would end up in the rough around 3 paces off the fairway. While our rough is girthy, I typically am able to make good contact. All that ended today, every second shot from the rough, and I mean every single goddamn one, traveled 25-40 yards at about a 75 degree angle. If I was in the fairway I would make a good shot and recover somewhat, once frustration set in I was flying the green with wedges and playing like a jackass. Out in 40, finished with a stone cold 97.

Not sure if this classifies as the yips, but I place the entirety of the blame on the fact that I read through this post prior to leaving for the club this morning.


#29

Wait… missing multiple 2 footers classifies as the yips?..

Shit. just thought that was a Saturday


#30

People are confusing the yips with simply bad shots or putts. Which is fine because it means you’ve never had them and I hope you never do. Missing multiple 2 footers could be the yips but it also could be just misreading, pushing/pulling the putt, or just rushing through it. The yips are a definitive flinch with the hands that happens right before impact, that either jolts the face open or shut. It may not be noticeable to others, if the yip is small, but it is noticeable to you. The cause is anxiety from fear of embarrassment, which results in a lack of confidence, which feeds back into the anxiety, then the cycle continues. If you have a lack of confidence + fear of embarrassment + anxiety, there is a chance you could get the yips, but I believe it takes those three things in the right combination to get them. I’ve had them for a while in putting, and the thing that works the best for me is a forward press of the putter right before taking it back. I’ve had days where I have 26-29 putts and felt great, but then there are days where it’s ~40. Things that I have tried that haven’t worked are: the claw, cross handed, changing putters (works for a while), putting with just my right arm, eyes closed - really bad results, putting with my lobwedge, purposely taking the club way inside and re-routing it, making my putter heavier, reading books, watching Rickie Fowler putt, and watching Ben Crenshaw putt. The forward press works the best, like how Phil does except a little more exaggerated. Also avoiding caffeine.


#31

Q1:: Driver. Q2: Alcohol.


#32

i think i’ve got the sand yips. when i started i was okay out of the bunkers. i bladed one and almost killed my friend across the green. every since then, twenty years later i still can’t get out of bunkers reliably. i’ve had over twenty lessons and flown across the country numerous times following short game specialists. i practiced endlessly. the balls would just be bladed into the face of the bunker or else almost laid sod over the ball with sand. for about 18 of the years my friends assured me i was the worst bunker player in the world. they assured me if i could get out in one, my handicap would immediately drop 5 strokes. out anywhere on the course inbounds and not wet in one, they meant. for the last couple years, something improved. now i’m just sweaty and twitchy (remember sergio in the day?) but i can usually get out of the bunkers. not on the green. either barely out or clicked over the green, but at least out. sadly my handicap only dropped 3 strokes, but i’m hoping to improve. i hit at least one hundred fifty bunker shots per week (in season) for the last 9 years. now my friends just tell me i’m seriously below average, but no longer the worst in the world.

lately i’ve taken to hybrid and putter out of the bunkers and that seems more reliable, to answer the question. unfortunately/fortunately, i go to bandon every year with my buddies, and the bunkers there are not necessarily ones where that strategy can work. :slight_smile:


#33

Get out of my head.

I’ve tried all of those things (and more!) and had a short breakthrough with the forward press but even found a way to overthink and break that. I have a constant fear of an involuntary shutting the face at impact so i would either allow that to happen or prevent it by blocking putts well right. I couldn’t even imagine hitting one straight.

Somehow I stumbled onto messing around with a left hand low claw, and for some reason it has created a shoulder-generated stroke and I can feel the putter head swing like a pendulum, almost like it is swinging itself. It has only been a few rounds but it has been fun making some putts, having good-looking (as in not cover your eyes awful) misses, and not (very poorly) steering my putter.


#34

I’ve had the chipping yips going on for two weeks or so. 45 degrees right.

It’s anything from a standard chip to a partial wedge shot out to 65 yards or so.

What’s helped me is to really shallow out and really think in to out. At the range, I placed two tees outside the ball (away from me) and just focused on not hitting the tees. I’m working my way out of it now.

NOT FUN.


#35

Had a bout with the putting yips in 2014-15 from 5 ft and in. Always occurred in round while the putting green was pure. Had a fellow member who told me to go with the claw grip. I was reluctant at first and actually switched mid tournament. Shot 74 in the first round with a standard grip but must have lipped in 4 or 5 three footers. Went with the claw for round 2 and shot 83 but have never looked back. I’ll occasional go standard over 50 ft which helps with distance control. The aforementioned member now puts left handed because he is farther in his head than me.

Currently in a battle with the chipping yips. Again, the closer to the green/hole I get, the worse it gets. We either hit 3 inches behind the ball or blade one into the upper deck. We’ve had some success doing the Brandt Snedeker or the anti-Cantlay - essentially swinging as soon as we look at the ball. Will report back after tournament season this summer.


#36

Kind of afraid to post this, but I have to say that ever since this YIPS thread came out and people have been posting and telling their tales, helping each other out, and in general venting their frustration… my putting yips have nearly vanished after 3 years of complete yipping. In the last 10 rounds I’ve played, I’ve gone from 35–40 putts and yipping maybe half of them, to 27-32 putts and yipping maybe 1 per round. My handicap is going seriously down due to this single aspect. Granted I haven’t been playing in tournaments or under any real pressure, but this is from a person who yipped putts playing by myself with nobody around. This is significant improvement and I think this thread has been a type of ‘mental therapy’. If it doesn’t last, then oh well, but it’s been nice for a while.

Wondering if this has happened to anyone else?


#37

Definitely enjoying the tales. This thread has inspired me to share. Played D1 Golf in college and I think through High school and college I suffered from multiple cases of the yips. For about 4 months my senior year of high school I would stand over the ball for up to two minutes before being able to take the club away. just standing there, wanting to pull the trigger but couldn’t. The same thing resurfaced at times through out college. I would back off the ball and curse myself out because I couldn’t pull the trigger. My freshman year of college I also had a case of the putting yips for my first semester. I eventually switched to an arm lock putter and with practice overcame that. My sophomore year I couldn’t hit the ball in play. I saw a similar story above. 2 weeks before our conference championship I shot 70-72 at Merion in our tournament and finished 3rd. Conference I couldn’t hit irons of the tee and shot 79-88-90. Almost quit golf, and didn’t play all summer. Completely changed my swing the next year and got to the point where I was hitting it great, and putting well. But got such a bad case of the chipping yips that I couldn’t hit a shot under 60 yards off the fairway without blading or chunking it. Long Story short, I now have a real job, still love golf, still hit it and putt pretty well, but can’t hit a chip shot. This game is brutal. I enjoy hearing the similar frustrations


#38

wow … did you ever get pushed by officials for slow play, or was it HS golf so #whocares?


#39

High school golf so no one cared. I was very aware of how long I was taking, so I would apologize and do my best to play fast. It was brutal tho. Some days were better than others. But i have vivid memories of a few times where I was so frozen I could barely move. Imagine Patrick Cantlay taking twenty looks at the hole before swinging.


#40

I feel bad for you, glad to hear you got over it. However, I don’t have to imagine Patrick Cantlay looking at the hole 20 times before pulling the trigger, that’s what actually happens.


#41

It wasn’t good. If you guys remember the name Theo Humphrey (played at Vanderbilt, first team all american, Tron has talked about him) he had the same problem pulling the trigger at the Jones Cup two years ago. He would back off multiple times and would be yelling at himself about not being able to pull the trigger. He could be a lot of fun to watch on Tour as a potential villian