1082: The Science of Putting with Dr. Sasho MacKenzie

Been marking a card then editing after

MS = misread speed, ML misread line
Then result
Distance of putt
Direction (I do the clock system)

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Do you ever need to track the second putt? I’m thinking I might do up a little printout to test out…

If it’s over a tap in it will ask distance and if you made or missed that’s it.

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That’s what it looked like, but I’ve only done the practice tracking so far.

I suppose it’s all visualization, but I feel like that is where my focus is focused just before I pull the putter back.

I think my eyes continue to look at the ball and putter but in my minds eye, I’m looking down the intended line imagining the ball rolling over the mid point target at the correct speed.

Once I’ve worked all that out, I try to make a steady head, buttery stroke and hold the pose.

I hope that make sense.

Yeah i like the idea of that too.

Idk, lots to tinker with this offseason. Losing nearly a stroke to my own HCP level on the greens through 12 rounds isn’t what I was hoping to see.

Going to do a better job of tracking SG next year anyways, if I’m losing a shot there, it means I’m probably better somewhere else, and want to focus my practice on maintaining my edge there while improving the lagging parts.

There is little doubt, IMHO, that the biggest hurdle to having good things happen in the golf swing starts in first 6 inches between our ears. My goal is to be focused on read and react and less on how.

The Stack System appears to be set up to optimize for that objective, based on listening to Doc. I haven’t actually tried it but I’m collecting useful crumbs where I can. BTW, I live in SW Florida, so I don’t really have an off season.

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I’ve been putting heads-up for the last 3 seasons after realizing my speed control was terrible. Came across Sasho’s PGA video linked further up and figured I’d give it a try, and worse-case if I didn’t like it, I can just turn my head 90Āŗ down again. Made it a goal during that first winter to roll about 20 balls a day on the putting mat in the basement, just to get used to the feeling. It was little awkward at first, but now that I’m used to it I won’t be going back. Since I’ve started, I’ve improved about 1.5 strokes per round according to Arccos. My speed control is way better, and I’ve found myself making more 5-10 footers too. My only problem is that sometimes I have to catch myself from instinctively looking at the hole when I have a short chip.

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tried this on stack putting today. made 94 ft of putts and gained 1.5 strokes. guess we’re trying this now

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Still not sure what this meant but took it to the practice green for an hour and It Works GIFs | Tenor

I don’t know how to explain it, but really feel like I’m focused on my peripheral vision out of my left eye before the stroke. Felt like something clicked. we’ll see how it goes this weekend

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That’s awesome. I’m interested to hear how it goes. Play well.

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This thread really re ignited a pure external focus in my game. Just hit a small bucket, did a stack putting session, and played par 18 (9 up and downs from random spots)

Focused on clearly seeing the image of the shot, specifically the height I was trying to hit it (punching a hole in a cloud, keeping the chip shots to a certain height in the background) and was hitting absolute lasers.

On the practice green I had 8 up and downs and a hole out, first time I’ve ever broken par on that game

Stack putting was hit or miss, but my speed was much much better, got all but one putt to / past the hole. Need some more work there as height doesn’t apply.

The left ear / eye thing was interesting. When I could see the hole in my peripheral it worked VERY well

Has me excited to get way more out of my head and into my intent. The height thing is trippy. Give it a whirl if you never have.

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I love where this is going.


ā€œRelax. Find your center. Picture the shot. Picture it. Turn off all the sound. Just let it happen. Be the ball.ā€

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Do you do drugs?

Everyday.

Good.

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Specifically on the subject of looking at the hole rather than the ball, is the secret here that it keeps your head still as you’re focused on one point rather than, say, looking up at the ball / line / hole just as or just after you’ve struck the ball?

So it’s not looking at the hole, per se, which improves your putting. It’s the fact that you now have a stable platform to putt from, with little or no head movement?

FULL DISCLOSURE: Although I now work in golf, I’m an actuary by training so statistics - in the broadest sense - is something I take immense comfort from and this includes understanding cognitive, self-selection and correlation / causation biases.

I don’t think there’s a secret to the specific thing to look at. I think the target just needs to be in sight and you have to have a general idea of what the putt should look like

The idea is to be more athletic/natural. When we’re driving a car we don’t worry about where specifically on the road we are looking when we want to change lanes, where our hands are on the wheel, etc. We just see the space and go there.

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correct. not about your head being stable, about not watching your stroke and worrying if it’s straight etc. doesn’t need to be perfect to putt well, look at billy mayfair

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Considering smoking a joint and doing some stack sessions.

Compare sessions stone vs sober

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A couple times people have asked what I’m looking at etc when I putt and I’m not looking at anything. Its like one of those 90’s 3d art posters where you have unfocused your eyes or are looking through the picture itself.

I’m looking down but I’ve got the image of the putt in my mind and I’m not actually looking at the putter or ball or ground etc I feel like I’m almost looking through all that - I’m ā€œlookingā€ at the image in my mind of the putt

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Wondering if this will be like when you get a new putter and putt great for three weeks, and then regress back to the ā€œnormā€ and realize it was just the change that boosted confidence for the short-term

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